Friday, May 11, 2012

The Bible & Homosexuality - 15 Propositions

Having heard much talk recently about the Bible and homosexuality, in our Methodist denominational conference, in my home state of North Carolina with its marriage amendment vote, and then President Obama’s statement affirming gay marriage, I have pulled together fifteen propositions that I believe might help us moving forward.

(1) If we could travel back in time to interview the authors of the books of the Bible and the other leaders of God’s people, all of them (Moses, Elijah, Jeremiah, Peter, Paul, James) would have regarded homosexuality as a bad idea. There is no support for homosexuality from these writers.

(2) No one in Bible times had the slightest familiarity with homosexuality as we know it today. Moses and Paul never met the kind of committed gay couple you might know from your neighborhood or the office. When they thought of homosexuality, they thought of an aged Roman senator who had a young boy for a sexual slave, or perhaps a sudden drunken encounter between two people who didn’t know each other five minutes before. In elite Greco-Roman society, there were non-secretive gay and lesbian relationships, but those involved were still married to persons of the opposite sex. Bible writers were against these things, and so am I.

(3) Today, when anyone talks about the Bible being plain, and that they agree with the Bible, they are reading selectively, picking and choosing this or that from the Bible. No one today has any serious intentions of doing everything the Bible says, and certainly an entire state or country does not, or we’d shut down the NFL and the Pentagon, which are quite clearly out of order according to the Bible. Jesus very plainly said if you have a party, don’t invite those who can invite you back, but invite the maimed; most who quote the Bible do precisely the opposite on both.

(4) Similarly, when we speak of the separation of church and state, this often is code language, translated roughly as “If it supports my viewpoint, the state should be involved; if it disagrees with me the state should keep its nose out of our business.” Consistency on the church and state relationship would be helpful. Generally, Christians are foolish if they count on government to enforce what the Church believes.

(5) The Bible’s writers were inspired by God, but clearly they were not taking dictation from God. And they did not anticipate every situation we would deal with in the modern world. They spoke to ancient people, largely about ancient issues, many of which continue today, but in very different forms. So the Bible requires interpretation.

(6) All of us in various ways take the Bible’s core truths and engage in some updating so the heart of the Bible might make sense today. Some of this we do quite faithfully: we are glad women speak in church, and we happily wear blended fabrics. At other times we update the Bible simply to suit our own prejudices: we justify unholy wars, and we are greedy consumers and then say we are “blessed.”

(7) No single Bible verse, or handful of verses, can reveal the fullness of God’s mind. If you retrieved four sentences of various things I have said over my adult life, you would have a skewed image of who I am and what I think. It is the whole body of work, all of God’s Word not just a few words from God’s Word, that tells us what we need to know.

(8) Human beings are fallen, prone to self-justification and pasting God on whatever we happen to prefer or enjoy – and we are probably most likely to be confused about God’s way in areas of sexuality, given the virtually irresistible lure.  How we feel, think and act regarding sex (no matter the orientation) should be subjected always to rigorous scrutiny and prayer.


(9) Generally when Christians talk about holiness nowadays, they point the finger at somebody else for not being holy instead of rising up to be holy. When Christians talk about “standards,” they mean religious rules that come quite easily for them or don’t affect them. We could readily focus on “standards” regarding how we spend or make money, or what we thoughtlessly watch on TV, or the rancor we harbor in our hearts against people who disagree with us – but instead the idea of “standards” becomes a weapon against those who aren’t like us.

(10) Christians who seek change on homosexuality are not wise to make “love” their primary argument. “God loves everyone” – but that doesn’t solve anything, since a non-inclusive Christian can quite easily point out that God loves child abusers or alcoholics. God does love, and then the Bible and all of Christian tradition has yearned for us to move past merely being loved by God toward a life of holiness before God. Similarly, to point to “this is the way I was made” helps a lot, but doesn’t entirely solve things, since I might be made with a proclivity toward alcoholism, or a likelihood of lethal disease.

(11) It is a false dichotomy when conservatives declare that liberals want love without holiness. Some liberals are not very holy, but then again quite a few conservatives are not so holy either. Many liberals I know are tremendously holy, exhibiting the fruit of the Spirit, with hearts and lifestyles very much dedicated to God.

(12) It is also false to say that conservatives have the Bible on their side and the inclusivity folks ignore the Bible. Serious cases have been made in interpreting the Scriptures for openness to homosexuality, thinking of God's creation of us as the beings we are, the centrality of faithful, monogamous relationships, etc.

(13) If we could travel back in time and take a close look at marriage in Bible times, we’d say “No thank you.”  Life was grinding and utterly unromantic.  Many marriages were arranged.  Women had no rights, could be and were abused without any recourse, dispensable on a whim; with no antibiotics women routinely died in childbirth.


(14) God does love everyone, and holiness is God’s desire. But we cannot make anybody else holy. We cannot even make ourselves holy. This is God’s work in us. Our job isn’t to judge others, and our job isn’t to enforce rules on God’s behalf. God is God. What God asks of us is hospitality, love for everyone, openness to everyone, and even an openness to what God might do that we don’t understand, or that makes us uncomfortable. The first people who knew Jesus were so uncomfortable with him, and his way was so out of their holiness box, that they crucified him instead of welcoming him.

(15) Immense humility, and tender care and gratitude are always fitting for Christians. Being right is interesting, but love for those Christ loves is always one step higher in Jesus’ scale of values. To be a listener – and we’ve had far too little listening on both sides – is holy. And we can be grateful for each other, even in our disagreement. Methodists have said for decades that they don’t condone homosexuality; but gays and lesbians keep coming to our churches, they preach, teach, pray, sing, serve, and love – and I for one give endless thanks to God for this miracle of grace that they are still here. And of course, the total inclusivity people need to find ways to include those who disagree, who genuinely are striving to know and serve God with where they are on things. Proverbs 16:7 says “When a man’s ways please the Lord, he makes even his enemies to be at peace with him.”

19 comments:

  1. Perfectly put. What he said. Thank you Pastor.

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  2. These are pretty good. Thanks for the time and thought you have put into this.

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  3. Thank you James. I have been wrestling with my thoughts, ideas, arguments and feelings on this subject for a while. This gives some wonderful insight for my journey.

    Peace be with you.

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  4. Love the sinner,hate the sin. Then tell them about Gods Word, the only Truth and Answer and don't leave out the Message of the Cross, the whole truth. All with LOVE, because God is LOVE.
    John B. Edwards

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  5. John, the phrase "love the sinner, hate the sin" is about as un-Christian as it gets. It's also not a phrase that appears anywhere in the Bible but instead is generally attributed to Gandhi.

    To often that quote is used to justify the hatred (and often, violence) that one commits to another. "Oh I love them as a person, I just hate what they're doing" - they're hollow words to the person that receives them.

    Instead, I'll ask you to refer to 1 John 4:20 or if you prefer and believe that we are servants of God (I'd hope so), then maybe Romans 14:10 is more up your alley. Both of these examples can actually be found in the Bible and are, in my opinion, more in line with the teachings of Jesus.

    If we were to all drop this "aura of righteousness" that we carry about ourselves, I think we'll realize that we don't know as much as we think we do, and we're not as Christian as we think we are. By realizing that we don't truly know anything, we stand to learn everything from the ministry of Jesus. It was the sinners who flocked to Jesus to hear his words, cry at his feet, and ultimately follow in his footsteps. Those who saw themselves as sinless (namely the Pharisees), pounded their chest and announced the sins of others while failing to look inward, and ultimately learned nothing from Jesus.

    In closing, I leave you with a passage from Martin Luther:

    "Sin boldly and love Christ more boldly still."

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  6. I shall be using some of your points in my sermon this week, making sure you get credit of course! Thank you for your insight.

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  7. I've heard "Love the sinner, hate your OWN sin"...

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  8. "Theology Like Jazz"?
    15 Propositions Pastor, and I still don't know where you stand on "homosexuality" as we experience it today.
    What about the Jerusalem Council?
    How does the first Christian Council factor into homosexuality being a sin along with other sins of "sexual immorality"?

    Listen to and love homosexuals? Of course.
    Thankful to God that they still love the UMC? Absolutely.

    But we need to do more than listen and love. We need to offer every "sinner". (me included) the Gospel. My "interpretation" of Scripture would say that the "Gospel" of freedom for the homosexual would be life-long celibacy or deliverance, healing, sexual re-orientation through Exodus ministries or Menninger Clinic type sexual re-orientation programs.

    Would love to hear your and other sincere Christians on this.

    Shalom,
    Pastor Nathan Nordine
    First UMC
    Crestline, Ohio

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  9. I am so disappointed in this. You saying that the authors did not know how the modern world would be. Who cares? God has not changed nor has His intent. The scriptures are God inspired, not God suggested. You cannot choose which parts of the Bible to believe. It is all or nothing. No where is marriage between anyone other than a man or woman even dreamed about. I choose to believe what was written by God and not by you or any other human. I am just sorry that a man of God is teaching others to go contrary to the Word.

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    1. Shelly - it seems you actually agree with the author.

      "I am just sorry that a man of God is teaching others to go contrary to the Word."
      before your head explodes you may like to revisit propositions 1 and 2.

      "You cannot choose which parts of the Bible to believe. It is all or nothing."
      you may want to revisit prop. 7

      James is not teaching others to go contrary to the Word. That is a false statement and heart-wrenching for me to hear..and I don't even know this guy! Let's be careful before ripping one another's souls out of their chest. May we all find grace from one another when navigating difficult waters.

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  10. Well said! I could not agree more. These principles are good starting points for further discussion and, God willing, alignment on such a difficult topic.

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  11. If we were have a truly honest discussion on this topic, it would include the truth that homosexuality is never innate. There is not the slightest evidence that homosexuals are made that way and cannot change.

    We might also want to discuss Bp. Timothy Whitaker's point that our discussion ought to be informed by an intelligent Christian anthropology. Our hypersexualized and autonomous individualized culture wants to classify human persons by who or what they copulate with. There is no reason to adopt the language of our culture, other than that the church (most especially the UMC) always proclaims today what the culture said yesterday.

    There is no such thing as a homosexual, just as there is no such thing as a heterosexual.

    In light of the biblical revelation regarding the nature of the human person, we are body soul and spirit, men and women, who both reflect and contain the image of our creator. We are spiritual beings in sexed bodies, and for a purpose.

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  12. I am homosexual. If you are not homosexual, then you should thank God every day for that blessing. Maybe it is a choice; that wonderful test which will seal our fate for heaven or hell. But have YOU ever had to choose between someone you love more than life itself and the Giver OF Life? If you have not been faced with that dilemma, then you have no authority in the matter. God, I assure you, does have such authority. Millions upon millions of us speak to him about this very thing each and every day of our lives. And he does speak to us, and he guides us...just like he does you. I love what my pastor has written above and I am very proud of him after some of the antics on television this week.

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    1. Sir: I am a man; you are a man. Your choice is not between your lover and God; your choice is in how you express that love and how you respond to your desires.

      Augustine wrote that we always choose according to the strongest desire within us; but we are not a slave to desire. Our freedom consists in our ability to ask God to change our desires.

      You have a wonderful pastor, whose writing and teaching has blessed us all. The 15 propositions are not his best work.

      God bless.

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  13. Dear Pastor/professor Howell, I found your post as an inspiring one. Hence, I reposted here: http://ntscholarship.wordpress.com/2012/05/26/the-bible-homosexuality-15-propositions/

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  14. According to NT Wright, proposition #2 is false. Source...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpQHGPGejKs

    5:32

    Do you have a response?

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